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Wednesday, 28th January 2015

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Hill Country Indoor hits snags at Council

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Hill Country Indoor faces another month long delay after presenting their revised plan for their new facility on Bee Cave Parkway opposite Ledera.

 

The plan, which involved switching the building and playing fields to reduce the adaptations needed to conform with the topography.

 

But the main problems stemmed from the City Council unwillingness to accept non expert opinions on the pervious nature of both the artificial turf and the "Grasscrete" planned to be used for the parking lot. Without both allowances the facility cannot meet the 45% impervious cover and the necessary storm water runoff facilities. An HCI team member claims that Austin City has already accepted the same standards of impervious cover, despite what the City of Bee Cave may have claimed.

 

The HCI team also sent us this official statement:

"Hill Country Indoor has dedicated 3 years of unwavering determination to bring a state of the art sports and health facility to Central Texas. We are without a doubt going to bring this project to the hill country. Our funding is in place, our construction is locked and we are aggressively working with the city of Bee Cave to bring this project to a physical reality. At the present, we are weighing the options and opportunities that have been presented to us. It is our hope, as it has been all along, for this project to be a desired amenity to the city of Bee Cave.
 
It is daily news that there is a great need for a facility such as this to empower families and enhance a progressive community. There are numerous indications and publications that continually confirm this fact. HCI is happily incurring increased expenditures to ensure the safety and well being of our children and quality of life for our community...
 
We would request that the citizens of the area voice their desire for a facility that is robust in design, while cohesive with the unique architecture of the hillcountry. Hill Country Indoor recognizes it's responsibility to jointly preserve ecological health and a consistent environment for the families and individuals that will celebrate life with HCI on a daily basis."

 

A 4-1 majority put off a decision for a month - time for HCI to either come up with expert opinions to support their claim or alternative materials

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too bad. maybe if they built that pool for the ladera folks their delays would stop ? johnny
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The community wants to talk about pools again? In a drought? Selfish and senseless. I hope they make the right decision. If they do Grasscrete will it save water? If so, I hope they move forward.
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The City of Austin has decided that artificial turf is impervious so, Bee Cave has too.
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Grasscrete still requires irrigation. Make it decomposed granite, which is pervious and requires no irrigation. But, that may not be permissible based on Code.
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Oh yes, the ALMIGHTY Code.
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I think you might be confused about the goal of impervious limits. The goal is to hold and filter storm water before it enters the creeks as well as reduce flash floods, erosion, and pollution.

Much of the storm water still needs to reach the creeks, but over an extended time period instead of immediately.
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Yes! A pool that I can use but, you can pay for. Sounds like a deal to me johnny! If that happens, I am sure we can pave the way for Council to pass the project without any further snags.
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meanwhile, LTYA moves outside of Bee Cave and will drill a dozen water wells into the aquifer to irrigate 70 acres of turf.
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sad but true:(
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Texas is way behind the times in resource management.
VOTES:9
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All of these people talking about property values going up don't have a clue about how this drought will affect us all. This is no joke. There is a more than strong chance none of us will be able to ride out a real drought. Boarding up our homes and leaving if we don't get better resource management is a strong outcome. But DENIAL is comfortable and so we stick our heads in the sand. Pray for rain people, and be responsible for once and think of the whole instead of your little chunk of Bee Cave.
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Artificial turf conserves 1,000,000 gallons of water per field per year. If the owners wish to spend the extra money on turf and conserve water in a severe drought, then what's the hold up? We desperately need a facility like this in our area and it seems like they are ready to go. Enough of the politics, approve the project please!
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Because the City of Austin has now decided that artificial turf is an impervious cover, so too does the City of Bee Cave. It is another example of throwing the baby out with the bath water.
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The city of Bee Cave has decided nothing about impervious cover with regards to artificial turf. That is one of the reason's the decision was delayed until June- giving the city time to figure out this first request.
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a monkey wouldn't need a month to "figure" this out. It is a senseless waste of the developer's time and money.
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but isn't that the role of bureaucrats? stand there with their palm out and delay projects.
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So your point is that Austin has some intelligent people on the city council there? That's the way it should be. Enough with the small mindedness of Bee Cave.
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No, my point is that monkey see, monkey do. Austin's decision is not "intelligent", and is not based on anything other than staff's looking for something to do.
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Too bad. So sad. This three year on-going arguing back and forth over what to cover the ground with, what to cover the parking lot with, the size of this and the size of that, the color of that, the color of this and every other hurdle has caused our youths three more years and probably many more in being forced to drive elsewhere for their entertainment. By the 'red tape' the adults are dealing with, the youth are driving into Austin, Dripping Springs and other various towns on major highways just because their elders can not agree on 'turf', 'crete', impervious covering and other. In the meantime adults, are you prepared to speak to a parent(s) who is told in the middle of the night their Child(s) was killed because they were forced to look elsewhere for entertainment while the elders argue over road toppings and 'grass? Three years have passed, with our teens being three years older now. How many more years will this indecisiveness drag on? This youth will have grown up and moved away! Either get off the 'high stick' or get on, as our youth need this now.
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Who is talking about kids being killed? Wtf?
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Easy to see their point. There is nothing for kids to do out here. Especially teenagers. So yes, they have to drive into Austin for anything to do most of the time.
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Rich people problems!
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Something smells fishy to me...this council has found ridiculous reason after another to stall this project. Artificial turf should be a no brainer! Does the word DROUGHT mean anything??? Let's get with the times, people! The high school has replaced their field with turf, AZ homes have it in their front and back yards, I don't get the hang up Council has! Meanwhile, this Council that we let decide things for our community is giggling during the meeting like little school girls, and posting on Facebook (YES, DURING the meeting). Unprofessional!!! This project would be a HUGE asset to our community! Built by members of our community who seem to care about our youth. But, by all means, let's fast track projects like a waste water plant. Anyone have a chance to voice their opinion about THAT? It's beyond sad!!!
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AMEN. Lakeway just announced no further new landscaping and pool permits for now. When will Bee Cave follow suit? Approve this turf if it helps with the watering problems. Win-Win.
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I agree if someone posted on Facebook while in the meeting, that is totally wrong. I guess you must have been at that meeting to know that. What I also think is wrong is ticked off land owners trying to bully the council into giving them what they want. Not just here with HCI but also what happened with LTYA. I'm tired of it. We want a beautiful city with great businesses and amenities, but we will not get it if we are bullied. If HCI doesn't meet the city requirements, maybe the council should vote it down to make a point.
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A den of thieves.
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The bullies are folks like yourself who think they own other people's property.
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Man, I could have written the prior post myself. You explained in one sentence what is wrong in Bee Cave.
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The last time I checked Facebook was a public social forum. As it is demonstrated here, this project along with others has the direct attention of the community. That attention includes the social representations of the individuals that will directly be making the decisions. Adam I would highly recommend that you educate yourself before you make a strong stance. Unfortunately, you couldn't be more wrong. The HCI organization is attempting to work with this city in conjunction with their Comprehensive Plan "Montra" of a PROGRESSIVE city. The city and the organization are collectively analyzing and attempting to further ecological, superior options that assist the city to live up to it's self-proclaimed label while honoring the intent of the individuals that dedicate their services and make the tough decisions. Of course you have your "nah sayers" within the ranks just as you demonstrated at a community level. But hey...as I pointed out earlier, you just don't know any better. The voice is appreciated, but maybe with a little more foundation prior?
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The impervious nature of artificial turf can be demonstrated by a monkey, and requiring an "expert opinion" is ridiculous.
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Which Council member is posting while in council???
VOTES:4
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Yes, I would like to know also. Obvious then, that some people are "playing house" up there.
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This is why the whole idea of elections in Bee Cave seemed silly to me. It looked more like a Homeowner's Association election, than a real City('s) election. I just don't think of Bee Cave as a "place" that has a government but, I guess it is and, does.
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You nailed it. This is what happens when a HOA board gets more authority than it knows how to handle.
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BTW - if one council member even reads in a meeting another's post made during that meeting it breaks the open meetings laws I think
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I really hope someone calls out the giggling council members. Who's running this "city"?
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IF it is who i THINK it is, I would not be a bit surprised. Some people think the rules do not apply to THEM but act all HIGH AND MIGHTY with their public face.
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